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Is this the New Politicians Flexing their Muscles OR
So there we all were in the Final Whistle on La Marina, Its a Friday night in Spain. Had a very nice meal, staff are friendly, nice atmosphere in the room. Entertainer Pat Martin has been singing and telling jokes for just over an hour.
In fact it is now the late hour of 10.15pm and low and behold in marches a very large Mr Plod (El Fuzz) arms waving everywhere. The story goes that a local resident had complained (apparently this was the ex English retired Mr Plod) that all is too loud.
So all is much lowered or the Owner is threatened with a very large fine.
On leaving the premises the owner is now told by the El Fuzz that the TV set at the front on the entrance to premises being watched by about 20 people has to also be turned right down. How I stopped myself from bursting out into laughter I will never know it really was not on loud.
So I ask myself is this a repeat of a few years ago by the New Local Politicians to drive away all forms of local entertainment. Last time they practically paralysed Both La Marina and Quesada - we ended up with hardly anywhere to go for an evening out at the weekends on the urbanisations with music.
My opinion is that we should be allowed to have Entertainment during an evening at a reasonable level up to say 12.00 or latest 12.30. Is that unreasonable?
A quick thanks to Jeff for at least having the decency to answer a query on this forum.I hope he will keep us informed on all actions taken by the council.I hope that his other comment regarding encouraging tourism isnt the only thing on the agenda,we still have the problem of dogs muck and graffiti to contend with.Now it looks like they need to sort out with the police how one complaint can ruin many a persons night (tourist or resident)by making pubs and clubs quieten down at 10.15pm.
Further to your post. I spoke with the temp chief of police today on this subject. He informed me that they recieved a call re excessive noise. They used a decibel counter and he stated that it was over the permissable limit. He was unable to comment on the actions of his officers, but we have agreed that we will talk together to try and establish some better rules for premises playing music. I have checked and there are only two music licences granted for premises in San Fulgencio. We are working on it. Our new councillor for tourism is a young man by the name of Borja. I will also pass on your comments to him as he is keen to find ways to bring the people back to the area.
Hi Jeff
May I ask what your involvement is in the local politics please as I am interested in getting involved and am looking for contacts
Jeff, pleased with your responses so far,On the question of music licenses could you find out,how many licenses have been applied for in the past say 12months and why they were rejected.Also the police could perhaps be a little more soft footed ,when going into bars and clubs by perhaps explaining to the manager the rules ,then take them outside and show the decibel count to them,at least we would then be on a level playing field,Because at the moment it seems the police are saying if we want you to to close for the night,we will do just that
Not surprised that their are only 2 music licences in the area. It was only a couple of years ago when the council and police had most bar owners petrified of what they were going to be asked to do next.
Something that should be remembered is that nearly all bars are Leasehold and not Freehold hence leaseholders are not normally in a position to carry out the endless requirements that they were told to do back a couple of years ago.
So we the public lost a lot of venues.
Obviously before I purchased my property on La Marina urbanisation I had thoroughly investigated the area, and one of the reasons I liked this area so very much was because the bars and restaurants were lively in the evening with some kind of entertainment a lot of the evenings. After all we are in Spain and I agree that if the sound is at a reasonable level and the artist finishes by midnight or 12.30 I think this perfectly acceptable..................
There seems to be a sensible system down in Torrevieja where bar owners or entertainment centres are fully aware of what decibels are allowed and they have been issued with or possible have purchased their own decibel counter s. We have often sat outside in the evening at the Emerald Isle listening to what ever act is own and observed the manager stealthily doing the rounds on the perimeter of the outside area using a small hand held decibel counter.
Do keep in mind that the Emerald Isle is slap bang in the middle of a very large Urbanisation but they are allowed to carry on the Spanish tradition of eating out under the stars while being entertained.
So please lets encourage things this end not discourage and threaten the possible lively hood of bars.
Hi I am from AJ's Bar in the grey area of the Urb. We have Karaoke a couple of nights a week even though we dont have a music licence. As has previously been mentioned, some time ago there were many rules as to what a bar would have to have done to qualify for a licence. Also we were told that we could carry out the works required and then still have the licence refused! They way things have been in recent times if you dont have something going on in the bar to attract customers you just wont get anyone in, so although we know we are doing wrong we have little choice. We would happily turn the music off at say 12 or whatever time we were told to. I know of places that have had music in the afternoon and the ploice have been there and stopped them. Having said that, on the few occasions that the police have stopped by our bar, they have actually been ok with us. They have never made us stop, only quieten down ( which is fair enough) I think very often it can be the bar owners ( or possible even customers) attitude to the police that can cause problems.
I would also like to say that if it were possible to get a licence we would happily do so, as long as we dont have to pay a riduclous amount for it, or carry out silly amounts of work to the bar in order to get one. We rent the bar like many others and this would not make financial sence for any of us.
The Urb needs to have music Karaoke, etc to entertain our locals who are our bread and butter, as well as the few touritsts that come here and its the only way to encourage more of them.
So here's hoping that Jeff will have some joy and be able to come to an arrangement with the police in the near future.
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How refreshing to find a forum that doesn't edit, cut or restrict posts and not afraid to recomend tradesmen etc.,
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Hi Eddie - glad that you approve. We also think it's great - just a nice friendly helpful site for everybody and you can put any ads in Free. When are you back over Eddie lol xx
I must agree I have never seen a website like this one before. I love the freedom it offers and how it is so simple to find what is needed.
Its great to see a good balance of businesses offering services and people asking for advise. WELL DONE CAROL (I think you are the owner)
It would be good to see other forums follow this example but I am sure they will not.
Hi Carol Clinton and I are over on September 17thfor two weeks. Heading for the chinese in Rojalas! !!!!!!
Dave Long
I am the President of PIPN, Partido Independiente por las Nacionalidades. We formed on tyhe 4th of March this year and fought in the election 22nd May. We gained one seat and signed a pact with the PP. forming the new government team. So it means that I will be working as the councillor for the Urbanisations. Hopefully bringing the problems of all the nationalities to the attention of the new government and hopefully, resulting in successful conclusions to those problems.
Jeff I wish you the best of Luck in your new venture,I really hope you are successful and hopefully make La Marina the place we all want it to be.I personally dont think you will,But I really hope you will prove me wrong.If you do succeed I will happily sing my praises of you loud and clear.as the old sayig goes......¨´I feel a song coming on´¨
ROJALES MOORS & CHRISTIANS FIESTA
Has anybody got the dates for this years Moors & Christians in Rojales,and does anybody know if Quesada are doing anything this year?
Don't know about Rojales but the biggest, best M & C parade in the area is CALLOSA DE SEGURA always on August 15th from about 8 pm to after midnight.
HAS THE INTENSE HEAT ALREADY KICKED IN
WOW!!!! Was it hot yesterday! I checked my outside thermometer and it read 35 degrees in the shade and the time was 8pm. During the day it hit more than 40 degrees and it was as though we were melting slowly. But having said that we love it and be sensible and stay out of the direct sunlight and keep that factor 50 sunblock on and close to hand.It would be interesting to hear from the forum members on how they cope and handle the heat here in Spain. All comments welcome
Absolutely scorching isn´t it!!!!!! I work on the road a lot so my air con is on full blast, its the only way to keep cool, costly I know, but I have no choice. If you have to go out try to avoid the heat between 1-4pm and if you are out then find a nice little cafe/bar that has air con and enjoy a cool drink.
Not lived here long, but did not realise the heat is that strong. Does anyone know if it gets any hotter, I mean I love the sun but this type of heat can be unbearable. Seriously not complaining, just want it to be 10 degrees lower. I suppose you cannot have your cake and eat it!!!!!!
We have only had 3 hotish days lol
Wait till 3 months have passed and you can’t' wait to go dancing in the rain.
The answer is to get up early do what you need to do then go back to bed (locally known as a siesta) then come out in the evening. Takes some getting used to.
I can't do it lol
I’m south facing, so i do keep my front windows and shutters closed & my back one open, helps keep the house a bit cooler
Ladies Ascot Day
At Zodiac Bar (nr Consume) on La Marina Urb, from 12 noon, on Thursday, 16th June, just 10 euros, includes a glass of carva, nibbles and a buffet and you can place some bets.
Put on your posh frock and hat and join us Zodiacs 610497210
HELP FIND THESE KIDS!
PLEASE IF YOU SEE THESE KIDS ON THE STREET TELL THE POLICE OR TELL ME NIkITA THE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN DISAPPEARED ALMOST 4 WEEKS THE POLICE ARE LOOKING FOR THEM AND THEY CANT FIND THEM ... THESE ARE MY BROTHER aND SISTER TWO SMALL CHILDREN A BOY OF 9 YEARS OLD ZAK AND A GIRL OF 7 YEAR SARA THE CHILDREN ARE IN SPAIN BUT NO ONE KNOWS WHERE I HOPE TO HAVE YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT THANKS
POR FAVOR SI VEIS ESTOS NIÑOS POR LA CALLE DECÍRSELO A LA POLICÍA O DECÍRMELO AMI.. LOS NIÑOS LLEVAN YA CASI 4 SEMANAS DESAPARECIDOS ESTA LA POLICÍA BUSCÁNDOLOS Y NO LOS ENCUENTRAN NECESITAMOS VUESTRA AYUDA... ESTOS DOS NIÑOS SON MIS HERMANOS PEQUEÑOS UN NIÑO DE 9 AÑOS (ZAK) Y UNA NIÑA DE 7 AÑOS (SARA) LOS NIÑOS ESTAN EN ESPAÑA PERO NADIE SABE DONDE ESPERO TENER VUESTRA AYUDA Y SOPORTE GRACIAS XXXX
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Where were they last seen? Are they in Spain with an adult/s? Do you have any more info?
HELP FIND THESE KIDS!
PLEASE IF YOU SEE THESE KIDS ON THE STREET TELL THE POLICE OR TELL ME NIkITA THE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN DISAPPEARED ALMOST 4 WEEKS THE POLICE ARE LOOKING FOR THEM AND THEY CANT FIND THEM ... THESE ARE MY BROTHER aND SISTER TWO SMALL CHILDREN A BOY OF 9 YEARS OLD ZAK AND A GIRL OF 7 YEAR SARA THE CHILDREN ARE IN SPAIN BUT NO ONE KNOWS WHERE I HOPE TO HAVE YOUR HELP AND SUPPORT THANKS
POR FAVOR SI VEIS ESTOS NIÑOS POR LA CALLE DECÍRSELO A LA POLICÍA O DECÍRMELO AMI.. LOS NIÑOS LLEVAN YA CASI 4 SEMANAS DESAPARECIDOS ESTA LA POLICÍA BUSCÁNDOLOS Y NO LOS ENCUENTRAN NECESITAMOS VUESTRA AYUDA... ESTOS DOS NIÑOS SON MIS HERMANOS PEQUEÑOS UN NIÑO DE 9 AÑOS (ZAK) Y UNA NIÑA DE 7 AÑOS (SARA) LOS NIÑOS ESTAN EN ESPAÑA PERO NADIE SABE DONDE ESPERO TENER VUESTRA AYUDA Y SOPORTE GRACIAS XXXX
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With reference to the post about the visit by the police last Friday. The new government team were only sworn in on Saturday. So nothing to do with them. The new government will start on Monday. We will be looking at ways to encourage tourism through providing entertainment for visitors.